1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,000 Now here they come with a water and a ferry out from the little river of Christ. 2 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,000 It's the man who raised it. 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,000 It's that money for your deed, if you can. 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 It's food. 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,000 And in the robbing, fraud rates are even rolling. 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,000 It's from wicked children's price. 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,000 When your debt is stolen in wealth, 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,000 but it lies on the fearsome righteously, 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,000 works as with your desire 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,000 and often, if you give your taste! 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,000 Look from down, 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,000 you hear the tear of his hell� pendant! 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000 He'll kill! 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaking of flying saucers, Frank Edwards has just written this book called, which really 15 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:31,400 lays it on the line, flying saucers are serious business. I have met him before. He's a fascinating 16 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:36,400 gentleman. I welcome him now directly off his saucer. Here's Frank Edwards. 17 00:01:36,400 --> 00:02:01,400 I've been hovering over the building for quite a while, but I am from this planet. 18 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,400 First question. Do you believe these flying saucers are real? 19 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:11,400 I believe that the Air Force is quite right when they told every Air Base Commander under the American flag 20 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:19,400 in a special order, which is printed in that book, that unidentified flying objects are a serious problem for the U.S. Air Force. 21 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:24,400 And then it goes ahead and tells how to pick up the pieces, when to shoot at them, and how to handle them. 22 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:25,400 How far, where are they from? 23 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,400 This is the big question. Nobody knows. 24 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,400 Do you believe they're from somewhere? 25 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:40,400 Other than Earth, oh yes. I don't know of anyone who has done any substantial amount of research on this problem, 26 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:45,400 who has ever arrived at any other conclusion. Dr. Herman Obert, the great German rocket scientist, 27 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:53,400 Admiral Hillen Cutter, the former head of CIA, Colonel J.J. Batty III, the aviation adviser to NATO, they all say the same thing. 28 00:02:53,400 --> 00:03:02,400 These are extraterrestrial devices operated by intelligent beings of a very high order, and they are operated by intelligent beings. 29 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:10,400 Well, that is sometimes, what do you mean, inside the devices? Some other nuclear operators, yes. 30 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,400 Where would they be from? This is the big question. I wish we knew. 31 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,400 Who admits that, officially? 32 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:23,400 Admiral Hillen Cutter, the former head of CIA, Dr. Herman Obert, the great German rocket scientist. 33 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,400 Why be the former head? 34 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,400 I'm not the admitted it. 35 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,400 Oh. 36 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,400 Listen, no, I am not a disbeliever. I'm wide open. 37 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,400 All right. 38 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:57,400 The present head, let's get out of the cases. The present deputy public relations director of NASA, Al Chop, who used to be the public information officer with the Air Force. 39 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:07,400 He's been promoted. He's gone up. And he says that we've known for years that these things were interplanetary and that they had us under surveillance. 40 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,400 Are they friendly? 41 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:19,400 In 19 years of research, I have never known of a single case where they have indicated by an overt act that they were unfriendly. 42 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,400 I don't know of a single hostile act by the UFOs toward us. 43 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,400 Are they unfriendly? 44 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:32,400 Yes, we have done some things that, well, for instance, we shoot at them. And they may think this is unfriendly. 45 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,400 Who shot at them? 46 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,400 The Air Force has shot at them on occasion. The Navy has shot at them. 47 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:45,400 The individuals have shot at them, or just about a month or so ago, up here in Maine, shot at one. 48 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,400 And here, a couple of times, it was at 22 Magnum. 49 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,400 And the bullets ricocheted off of it. 50 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:56,400 At Kelly, Kentucky in 1952, they shot at one with a shotgun. 51 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,400 And they could definitely hear it being hit. 52 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,400 Incidentally, I was in Evansville when this thing happened down there. 53 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,400 And I was there the next day, an interview of these people. 54 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:13,400 This is quite a case and is one of the best documented and most famous cases in the UFO history. 55 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:21,400 There's another example of our hostility. I guess you'd call it at Milan, Italy in October of 1954. 56 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:28,400 One of these glowing disc-shaped things went down in an abandoned sports field in Milan out at the edge of town. 57 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:34,400 And it was dark, and a quite a group of people gathered along there, 25 or 30, peeking at it through the fence. 58 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:42,400 And they could see the glowing thing on the ground, and they could see some sort of creatures moving around between where they stood and the object. 59 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,400 And a fellow came along with a truck loaded garbage. 60 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,400 And he pulled up alongside the fence so he could stand on the truck and see better. 61 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,400 And then some of these crowd that got the idea, that'd be better for them too. 62 00:05:53,400 --> 00:06:03,400 They all climbed up on the truck, and they told the Italian authorities afterward that somebody had the idea of bombarding this object and the creatures. 63 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,400 And so they grabbed a lot of this garbage and let it fly with it. 64 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:14,400 And they told the authorities that they scored several hits before the little creatures got in this thing and took off. 65 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:22,400 Now this would be rather ironic if these things are interplanetary to travel 40 million miles and get hit in the head with a rotten orange. 66 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,400 Imagine what they think of us. 67 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,400 They would know what it was though, would they? 68 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,400 They got hit hard enough they'd know what a fuck it was. 69 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,400 Yeah, yeah, fascinating. We'll be right back. 70 00:06:52,400 --> 00:07:00,400 What Frank or all these reports, for example, that one that happened was in Michigan or Wisconsin, where they proved that it was swamp gas? 71 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,400 Well, they didn't really prove it. They said that it was. 72 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:08,400 However, the men who were authorities on swamp gas said that it definitely was not. 73 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,400 The temperature was wrong, there was wind, there were many things wrong. 74 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:16,400 They had to come up with an answer real quick, and that was the best they could do. 75 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,400 And you are convinced yourself? 76 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,400 How many years of research? 77 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,400 Well, they listened to you in Washington? 78 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,400 I hope so. 79 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,400 They will on this show. 80 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,400 Yes, yes. 81 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,400 Have there been sightings around your home of Indianapolis? 82 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,400 Yes, about two weeks ago over the Western Electric Plant there. 83 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:45,400 This thing came down within three or four hundred feet of the plant and the guards and a lot of the people around there were out watching it. 84 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:50,400 And they could see it quite clearly. It was, as I said, within three or four hundred feet of them. 85 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,400 It was around there about fifteen minutes before it took. 86 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,400 Why are there always reports that they come near electrical plants or electrical wires? 87 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,400 This I don't know except that they have upon occasion caused blackouts. 88 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:07,400 They did not cause the big blackout last winter, you know, the one up in the New England states, but they have caused others. 89 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,400 This is very evident. 90 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:10,400 I have no question about that. 91 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:19,400 I've got a case in this book where they knocked a power plant out of business in Utah for forty-two minutes until we've got two flights of jet interceptors up there to chase the thing away. 92 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:25,400 The great thought that they might need that electrical energy to get them back to where they came from? 93 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:26,400 Well, this I don't know. 94 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,400 Dr. Olberth and other scientists say that they operate by distorting the gravitational field. 95 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:35,400 This will explain how they knocked out all the scientific gear in the Antarctic last July. 96 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,400 Do they do that? 97 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:37,400 They do it three times. 98 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,400 July the second, July the fifth, and July the seventh. 99 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,400 Do you do it so positively? 100 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:43,400 It's hard to question you. 101 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,400 Well, the scientists themselves. 102 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,400 What? 103 00:08:46,400 --> 00:09:00,400 One way is to just prove the flying saucers that when they said that they took off, we just proved by the fact that Steve grabbed the waitress with a tray and trapped and had a console of flying saucers. 104 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:05,400 And the other one, the other one. 105 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:10,400 And the odd item in Milano, Italy with those two was that routine. 106 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,400 I could have found some of them. 107 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,400 He cleaned that flying saucer bit up in there, didn't he? 108 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,400 Why do they feel that they will not contact us? 109 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,400 Because we see them hostile to them? 110 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:30,400 Well, I just think that the men who are authorities on this field at the time is not right yet that they are getting ready to do this. 111 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:39,400 And it will see we've gone through about six phases of this thing in 19 years and what the military calls the over-contaction coming through here. 112 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,400 Frank Edwards' book, Flying Saucers, Serious Business. 113 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:54,400 I'd like to thank my lawyer, to Marty Allen and Steve Wauvergne, to Colton and Wilder, and both of these come back to us. 114 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,400 WNYS-TV, Channel 9 in Syracuse, New York.